{"id":15707,"date":"2016-02-23T22:56:58","date_gmt":"2016-02-23T14:56:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-productionenv-bjg9h2g2bgg5b8aa.southeastasia-01.azurewebsites.net\/news\/ses-eager-to-fly-satellite-aboard-used-falcon-9-rocket\/"},"modified":"2016-02-23T22:56:58","modified_gmt":"2016-02-23T14:56:58","slug":"ses-eager-to-fly-satellite-aboard-used-falcon-9-rocket","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/starpath.global\/news\/ses-eager-to-fly-satellite-aboard-used-falcon-9-rocket\/","title":{"rendered":"SES eager to fly satellite aboard used Falcon 9 rocket"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_12840\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12840\" style=\"width: 621px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12840 \" src=\"http:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/24176558705_24bf29ae58_z.jpg\" alt=\"24176558705_24bf29ae58_z\" width=\"621\" height=\"414\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/24176558705_24bf29ae58_z.jpg 640w, https:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/24176558705_24bf29ae58_z-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 621px) 100vw, 621px\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12840\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The first stage of a Falcon 9 rocket stands on its landing pad at Cape Canaveral after a successful touchdown following a Dec. 21 launch with 11 Orbcomm communications satellites. Credit: SpaceX<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In one of the strongest public endorsements of SpaceX\u2019s initiative to put a reusable launcher on the commercial market, a top official from satellite communications giant SES said Tuesday that the company wants to fly one of its pricey payloads on a used Falcon 9 rocket, perhaps even without a test flight.<\/p>\n<p>Martin Halliwell, chief technology officer for Luxembourg-based SES, told reporters at Cape Canaveral that the telecom satellite operator has \u201cchallenged\u201d SpaceX to allow it to be first in line to fly a spacecraft on a previously flown Falcon 9 rocket.<\/p>\n<p>SpaceX is experimenting with recovering spent boosters following Falcon 9 launches, and engineers achieved the first successful landing of a Falcon 9 first stage minutes after a liftoff from Cape Canaveral in December.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h6>Spaceflight Now members can read a transcript of Tuesday\u2019s media roundtable with&nbsp;Martin Halliwell.&nbsp;Become a member today and support our coverage.<\/h6>\n<hr>\n<h5><\/h5>\n<p>The Dec. 21 landing occurred onshore on Florida\u2019s Space Coast a few miles south of the Falcon 9 launch pad. SpaceX\u2019s attempts to recover Falcon 9 boosters on an ocean-going landing platform \u2014 a capability required for the company to eventually return and reuse all its rockets \u2014 have been unsuccessful.<\/p>\n<p>The rockets use leftover kerosene and liquid oxygen propellants to steer themselves toward their landing zones, with a final burn of the the booster\u2019s center engine to slow down its descent just in time for touchdown.<\/p>\n<p>Halliwell said SpaceX showed off the Falcon 9 first stage flown Dec. 21 as SES officials prepared for the launch of a communications satellite, a liftoff set for 6:46 p.m. EST (2346 GMT) Wednesday on an all-new Falcon 9 launcher.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_12841\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12841\" style=\"width: 621px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-12841\" src=\"http:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/24382360351_c996749874_z.jpg\" alt=\"A Falcon 9 first stage descends to an on-target touchdown on SpaceX's ocean landing platform after a liftoff from California on Jan. 24, but one of the booster's landing legs buckled, causing the vehicle to tip over. SpaceX is 0-for-3 on landing attempts aboard the offshore &quot;drone ship&quot; platforms, and 1-for-1 onshore. Credit: SpaceX\" width=\"621\" height=\"414\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/24382360351_c996749874_z.jpg 640w, https:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/24382360351_c996749874_z-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 621px) 100vw, 621px\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12841\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Falcon 9 first stage descends to an on-target touchdown on SpaceX\u2019s ocean landing platform after a liftoff from California on Jan. 24, but one of the booster\u2019s landing legs buckled, causing the vehicle to tip over. SpaceX is 0-for-3 on landing attempts aboard the offshore \u201cdrone ship\u201d platforms, and 1-for-1 onshore. Credit: SpaceX<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u201cWe actually went out and saw the vehicle that was brought back,\u201d Halliwell said. \u201cVery, very impressive, indeed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>SES officials last year first made comments about potentially buying a flight for one of the company\u2019s telecom satellites on a used Falcon 9, and Halliwell doubled down on the commitment Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI did put out as a challenge to SpaceX that we would be the first satellite operator that would use the same rocket twice to get to (geostationary) orbit,\u201d Halliwell said Tuesday. \u201cWe discussed that with our investors, and they really liked that. It\u2019s something that I would really like to do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>With more than 50 operational spacecraft, SES is the world\u2019s largest commercial geostationary satellite operator.<\/p>\n<p>SES has seven satellites in development, and five of the spacecraft are assigned to launch aboard SpaceX\u2019s Falcon 9 rockets. Two others will fly on Ariane 5 rockets.<\/p>\n<p>Halliwell said questions remain regarding how much refurbishment a Falcon 9 first stage needs before it can fly again, and SpaceX still needs to master booster landings, but he believes the risk of reusing the rocket can be retired on the ground.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey have to work through the qualification. They have to work through all the various flight verification tests, etc., but once we get through that, I don\u2019t see any reason why we wouldn\u2019t fly on it,\u201d he said. \u201cAbsolutely none.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Asked whether SES would want to see a successful demonstration flight with a used Falcon 9 first stage, Halliwell said: \u201cActually, I would say we don\u2019t need any.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_12830\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12830\" style=\"width: 621px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-12830\" src=\"http:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/06_Martin-Halliwell-H.jpg\" alt=\"SES chief technology officer Martin Halliwell. Credit: SES\" width=\"621\" height=\"414\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/06_Martin-Halliwell-H.jpg 940w, https:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/06_Martin-Halliwell-H-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/spaceflightnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/06_Martin-Halliwell-H-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 621px) 100vw, 621px\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12830\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">SES chief technology officer Martin Halliwell. Credit: SES<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019ve had the proof that we can fly the thing back and land it,\u201d he said. \u201cI think the analysis of the status of the vehicle, what, if any, rectification (repair) work is necessary to bring it back to being fully flight-worthy, that\u2019s something we need to understand. That\u2019s obviously something which SpaceX is working hard on right now.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf we can get through that, and we can get through the verification testing and such, and then another couple of (landing) tests \u2014 I believe they\u2019ll come back \u2014 I think we would probably be quite happy to fly,\u201d Halliwell said. \u201cThat\u2019s not a show-stopper.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>SpaceX\u2019s next landing test will come aboard a landing barge in the Atlantic Ocean after Wednesday\u2019s launch of SES 9, but the mission profile is at the edge of the Falcon 9\u2019s launch capability. The first stage will be traveling nearly twice as fast as the booster successfully recovered in December, adding stress to the rocket during descent and significantly reducing the chance of a smooth landing, SpaceX officials said.<\/p>\n<p>Halliwell, a satellite industry veteran, said SES could convince its insurance providers that flying on a used rocket is worth the risk.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cInsurers are very interesting people,\u201d Halliwell said. \u201cThey look to us, they look to SES, and they say, \u2018Guys, do you believe in this or not?\u2019 They really look you in the eyes, and we have to have a belief. Once we have that capability of having that belief, and being comfortable with this, and putting an investment which could be half a billion dollars on top of this, then they say, \u2018OK, you\u2019re prepared to do it, and we\u2019ll go with you.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>SpaceX has not set a price for a Falcon 9 launch with a previously flown first stage. A&nbsp;new-build Falcon 9 mission costs approximately $61 million in the commercial market, according to prices published on SpaceX\u2019s website.<\/p>\n<p>SpaceX says introducing reusability into the launch market will cut the cost of space transportation and expand access to space for more satellites and smaller companies.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen we talked with (SpaceX president) Gwynne (Shotwell), she said it should be more expensive because it was flight-proven,\u201d Halliwell joked.<\/p>\n<p>SES has committed to more Falcon 9 flights than any other geostationary satellite owner, including a 2013 launch that was SpaceX\u2019s first mission to geosynchronous transfer orbit, the drop-off point for telecom payloads heading for fixed positions nearly 22,300 miles (36,000 kilometers) above Earth.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Email the author.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Follow Stephen Clark on Twitter: @StephenClark1.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The first stage of a Falcon 9 rocket stands on its landing pad at Cape Canaveral after a successful touchdown following a Dec. 21 launch with 11 Orbcomm communications satellites. 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